because we need to educate people, not indoctrinate them. and i think we need to go after the media. and i'd like to see you come up with something along the lines of the contract with america, maybe the contract of we the people to define conservativism and to lay out clearly, like did before to the american people, and i think we can win and conquer again. >> thank youment. [applause] thank you. those are good comments. >> over here. >> speaker gingrich, sincerely appreciate your intellect. i'd like to ask you a postelection question on the current immigration debate. it seems problematic that those people who are coming into the nation whose first interaction with our country are to violate our laws or at best to completely ignore them. are we running the risk of inculcating a culture of lawlessness? i'd certainly like to have your thoughts on how we can avoid this problem and solve this issue by not only strengthening our country, but hopefully avoiding further demise. >> well, i think whatever way we define immigration has to include co